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Post by eternalmatters on Jan 28, 2009 19:18:55 GMT -5
Why do some believe Peter and the rest came to preach the same gospel message as Paul? Why do others see them never preaching the same thing?
Why do some who see the dispensations still baptize and actively continue in the Lord's supper? Why do others not?
What do you (whomever you are) believe and would you present the scripture to back your belief?
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Post by tennesseepete on Mar 9, 2009 1:15:26 GMT -5
Hi eternalmatters,
I would like to answer one of your questions. You wrote, "Why do some believe Peter and the rest came to preach the same gospel message as Paul? Why do others see them never preaching the same thing?
Please read Acts 3:18-21. Three times, in 18, 20, and again in verse 21, Peter states that what he is preaching was "spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets 'since the world began'". Peter is clearly stating that what he is preaching had been spoken or preached before.
Now read Romans 16 :25, "Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began."
Peter was teaching what had been spoken since the world began. Paul was preaching that which had been kept secret since the world began. Obviously, the two were not teaching the same thing.
Tennesseepete
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Post by eternalmatters on Mar 14, 2009 3:00:02 GMT -5
You put that well...thanks!
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Post by audrey on May 19, 2009 5:17:25 GMT -5
1. "Why do some believe Peter and the rest came to preach the same gospel message as Paul? Why do others see them never preaching the same thing?"
The Church at Jerusalem remained separate – Acts 21:17-20: “And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly. And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, 'Thou seest brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law'”. Paul took great care not to build upon another man's foundation. See Romans 15:8. He understood that there was a foundation built upon Christ Jesus according to faith that works, while his foundation was built upon Christ Jesus according to grace. See 1 Corinthians 3:10. See also Galatians 2:9. It has been my personal experience that if you hold to a New Age Bible Version you will come to the incorrect conclusion that Peter and Paul preached the same gospel.
2. "Why do some who see the dispensations still baptize and actively continue in the Lord's supper? Why do others not?"
Those that still baptize are Acts 2 dispensationalists who believe the Church began in Acts 2. Well known Acts 2 dispensationalists are Charles Ryrie, John Darby, Cyrus Scofield, Hal Lindsey, John Hagee, et al.But, since the Kingdom Church began in Acts 2 and water baptism was one of the ordinances they upheld, the Acts 2 dispensationalists follow same because they don't discern between the Kingdom Church and the Body of Christ. You'll find that Baptists for one will tell you that they can trace their roots back to the Church at Jerusalem?
Then there are the mid-acts dispensationalists who believe that the Body of Christ (or church as we know it in this dispensation) began at either Acts 9 or Acts 13 and who still uphold one ordinance - The Lord's Supper or communion table, as it is mentioned in 1 Corinthians, whilst others state that since the middle wall partition has now been broken down between Jew and Gentile, ALL ordinances, including the Lord's Supper are done away with.
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